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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://livingwithmcl.com/2009/05/30/the-green-tea-phenomenon/comment-page-1/#comment-5095</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how exciting!

I bought the kettle on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001A5NFQA/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&amp;m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;v=glance&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;

It works great, and heats the water to any temperature within about 2 minutes.

But don&#039;t buy the Ingenuitea tea pot they offer with it. Too many of the tea leaves get through the filter and into the cup. 

I just went and bought this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010NR7C0/ref=ox_ya_oh_product&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tea cup&lt;/a&gt; with built in infuser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how exciting!</p>
<p>I bought the kettle on <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001A5NFQA/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&#038;m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&#038;v=glance" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a></p>
<p>It works great, and heats the water to any temperature within about 2 minutes.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t buy the Ingenuitea tea pot they offer with it. Too many of the tea leaves get through the filter and into the cup. </p>
<p>I just went and bought this <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010NR7C0/ref=ox_ya_oh_product" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">tea cup</a> with built in infuser.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://livingwithmcl.com/2009/05/30/the-green-tea-phenomenon/comment-page-1/#comment-5094</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, you green tea post was the topic at knit night tonight.  Where did you get your new tea pot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, you green tea post was the topic at knit night tonight.  Where did you get your new tea pot?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://livingwithmcl.com/2009/05/30/the-green-tea-phenomenon/comment-page-1/#comment-5092</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I think it&#039;s a combination of factors, the environment, my genetic predisposition, and mega dosing of Vitamin C, for which there was some evidence presented a few years back of the bad effects from taking too much Vitamin C.

I have also seen lots of information in general, that too much of a good thing isn&#039;t so good.

Plus it&#039;s my gut feeling that is accurate, and had a lot to do with my diagnosis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I think it&#8217;s a combination of factors, the environment, my genetic predisposition, and mega dosing of Vitamin C, for which there was some evidence presented a few years back of the bad effects from taking too much Vitamin C.</p>
<p>I have also seen lots of information in general, that too much of a good thing isn&#8217;t so good.</p>
<p>Plus it&#8217;s my gut feeling that is accurate, and had a lot to do with my diagnosis.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Posner</title>
		<link>http://livingwithmcl.com/2009/05/30/the-green-tea-phenomenon/comment-page-1/#comment-5091</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Posner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Quite interested in your comment re: megavitamins &quot;causing&quot; your MCL.

Is there any evidence in the literature that this is possible or is it just your gut feeling. Is there any one vitamin in particular you blame?

Don&#039;t forget your dad had some type of leukemia (CLL if I remember correctly).

Don&#039;t you think there can be a genetic predisposition, rather than vitamins that plays the major factor?

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Quite interested in your comment re: megavitamins &#8220;causing&#8221; your MCL.</p>
<p>Is there any evidence in the literature that this is possible or is it just your gut feeling. Is there any one vitamin in particular you blame?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget your dad had some type of leukemia (CLL if I remember correctly).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think there can be a genetic predisposition, rather than vitamins that plays the major factor?</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://livingwithmcl.com/2009/05/30/the-green-tea-phenomenon/comment-page-1/#comment-5090</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No John, I haven&#039;t, and at this point I have no intention of doing so.

I still believe it was my mega dosing on the so called good vitamins (those vitamins high in anti oxidants that would prevent cancers etc.) which caused my MCL, so I&#039;m not interested in trying such pills, especially if you can&#039;t be sure of the quality of the pills themselves.

I&#039;ll just keep getting it naturally for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No John, I haven&#8217;t, and at this point I have no intention of doing so.</p>
<p>I still believe it was my mega dosing on the so called good vitamins (those vitamins high in anti oxidants that would prevent cancers etc.) which caused my MCL, so I&#8217;m not interested in trying such pills, especially if you can&#8217;t be sure of the quality of the pills themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just keep getting it naturally for now.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you looked into high strength EGCG capsules.  EGCG capsules are being used in a Mayo Clinic clinical trial with CLL.  I don&#039;t take them myself but have read of many who do with mixed results.  I understand they have to be careful of the source where they buy them as the purity and strength is important.

In the clinical trial, &quot;doses ranged from 400 milligrams (mg) to 2,000 mg administered twice a day. Researchers determined that they had not reached a maximum tolerated dose, even at 2,000 mg twice per day.&quot;

&quot;...many of them saw regression to some degree of their chronic lymphocytic leukemia,&quot; says Tait Shanafelt, M.D., Mayo Clinic hematologist and lead author of the study. &quot;The majority of individuals who entered the study with enlarged lymph nodes saw a 50 percent or greater decline in their lymph node size.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked into high strength EGCG capsules.  EGCG capsules are being used in a Mayo Clinic clinical trial with CLL.  I don&#8217;t take them myself but have read of many who do with mixed results.  I understand they have to be careful of the source where they buy them as the purity and strength is important.</p>
<p>In the clinical trial, &#8220;doses ranged from 400 milligrams (mg) to 2,000 mg administered twice a day. Researchers determined that they had not reached a maximum tolerated dose, even at 2,000 mg twice per day.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;many of them saw regression to some degree of their chronic lymphocytic leukemia,&#8221; says Tait Shanafelt, M.D., Mayo Clinic hematologist and lead author of the study. &#8220;The majority of individuals who entered the study with enlarged lymph nodes saw a 50 percent or greater decline in their lymph node size.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s working good. I still have to get the exact quantity of green tea down right, which I&#039;m still working on, but I like it.

And the tea that I bought, actually looks like green tea, and tastes much better. 

Now I&#039;m beginning to wonder what I&#039;ve been drinking for the past 6+ years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s working good. I still have to get the exact quantity of green tea down right, which I&#8217;m still working on, but I like it.</p>
<p>And the tea that I bought, actually looks like green tea, and tastes much better. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m beginning to wonder what I&#8217;ve been drinking for the past 6+ years.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://livingwithmcl.com/2009/05/30/the-green-tea-phenomenon/comment-page-1/#comment-5087</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how&#039;s the new toy working out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how&#8217;s the new toy working out?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 17:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see, I drink 4 - 8 oz cups every morning. That&#039;s 224 oz.  

On Tuesday&#039;s and Thursday&#039;s when I&#039;m at work, I drink another 2-3 8 oz cups. That&#039;s another 40 oz, and then at least two days (and most times 3 days) a week, I&#039;ll have another big cup (probably 12 oz) of tea at the local coffee shop (always the caffeinated version), for another, we&#039;ll say 30 oz&#039;s.

So all told, that&#039;s about 294 oz of green tea per week, or on average approx 40+ oz per day. 

And thanks for the information on Inderal. It might help someone willing to take it, but you should know by now, I don&#039;t take drugs except under extreme circumstances. 

I&#039;m confident I&#039;ll still get plenty of EGCG, even if I have to cut the regular tea with some decaf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, I drink 4 &#8211; 8 oz cups every morning. That&#8217;s 224 oz.  </p>
<p>On Tuesday&#8217;s and Thursday&#8217;s when I&#8217;m at work, I drink another 2-3 8 oz cups. That&#8217;s another 40 oz, and then at least two days (and most times 3 days) a week, I&#8217;ll have another big cup (probably 12 oz) of tea at the local coffee shop (always the caffeinated version), for another, we&#8217;ll say 30 oz&#8217;s.</p>
<p>So all told, that&#8217;s about 294 oz of green tea per week, or on average approx 40+ oz per day. </p>
<p>And thanks for the information on Inderal. It might help someone willing to take it, but you should know by now, I don&#8217;t take drugs except under extreme circumstances. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m confident I&#8217;ll still get plenty of EGCG, even if I have to cut the regular tea with some decaf.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Posner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Posner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 14:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Out of curiosity, how many oz. of Green tea do you drink a day? Do you add anything to it (milk, sugar)?

I don&#039;t know how you feel about &quot;drugs&quot; but taking a small dose of Inderal daily would probably eliminate the palpitations you get from caffeine if getting the extra EGCG is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, how many oz. of Green tea do you drink a day? Do you add anything to it (milk, sugar)?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how you feel about &#8220;drugs&#8221; but taking a small dose of Inderal daily would probably eliminate the palpitations you get from caffeine if getting the extra EGCG is important.</p>
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